Are 99.9% of Your Photographs Just Not Important Enough To Save?

If this was your entire photo collection sitting in this trash can in the photo above, would this make you …

… actually, feel relief … or utter panic?

What if I added to this scenario? What if, to the best of your knowledge, all your photos sitting in the trash were already scanned and safely backed up on a couple of your hard drives?

Do you now feel relieved … or still utterly panicked?

From everyone I have talked to about this scenario, it seems safe for me to say that I believe the world is somewhat divided on whether it's actually okay to throw away your prints and slides once they have been scanned and digitally preserved.

And for some, hopefully not too many, I am sure they would say it's okay to throw away many if not most, photos before they were scanned and preserved.

Yes. You heard me.

Let's Consider My Aunt's Conflict

Not too long ago, I finished up a nice video review of the Logan Slide File 35mm slide box. It's an archival-quality metal box that is safe to store your slides in.

Logan Electric Slide File Model 200 Item #750523
Logan Electric Slide File Model 200

It's the first video I am not only in, but my Dad's making his “SYEL” screen debut as well.

For this reason, I thought I would email my Aunt Karen a link for the video.

Even though my Uncle has shot thousands of slides through the years and is in the process of scanning them, I really didn't think she would be interested in the subject of the video. I just thought she would enjoy seeing a video of her brother and me working on a family photo project together.

About a day or so passed when I got an email back from her. She was very complimentary of my work, as you would expect your delightful Aunt to be. (Thanks, Aunt Karen!)

But she added something at the end of her comment that I totally wasn't expecting.

We thought your video was very good. But I have to ask WHY we are storing all the slides???? I thought we were scanning them so we could get rid of some more STUFF! 

Well, first, I wrote her back and apologized. I told her my intent wasn't to push any kind of “metal archival box” agenda on her. And she told me later she didn't think I was.

Secondly, I must admit, that's a pretty logical and fair question she asked!

I mean, why should the average person go through this huge job or expense of scanning all their photos just to have a second set of them?

The Big Reply

So, I knew I had to write my Aunt back. I couldn't leave a monstrosity of a question like this hanging out there — especially when she used like 4 question marks in one sentence.

But, it's funny to me that I had to think about it for a day or two before I could even come up with a complete and possibly persuasive enough answer for her.

“Why should you keep your original prints and negatives?” I kept asking myself.

Suppose the scans aren't of high enough quality to warrant being able to toss the originals. What is the point of scanning them besides sharing a few with friends and family on social networking sites and email?

I became agitated with myself. 

“Shouldn't I just know this off the top of my head!?” I mean, I do have this little scanning website here with my name on it somewhere.

I kept thinking, “Why isn't it just a known belief for people that you keep your originals — I mean, they are … they're at least sentimental, right? Isn't everyone sentimental????”

Disclaimer: I think we maybe should just go ahead and get this out of the way. If you haven't guessed it already from reading this website, I'm on the side of the fence that can't help but practically gasp when I hear someone talk about throwing their original photos away. Yeah, even the “not so focused” and “that's my Mom's thumb in the shot” ones.

Over the last several years, I've now heard the logic from enough people from the “other side”  that I guess I should at least begin to recognize this as a respectable option.

That being said out loud, I still felt I should send my Aunt Karen any non-sentimental logical reasoning that would at least explain why I personally would never want to toss out my family's original photos.

I'm sure over time, the list will grow longer. But that week — silly, stupid, genius, or pathetic — here's what I came up with.

THE 4 REASONS WHY I WILL NEVER THROW OUT MY ORIGINAL PRINTS AND SLIDES

1 Scanning Mistakes:

What if I discovered I had made some mistakes scanning some of my photos and wanted to rescan them.

It's like when you write something and go to proofread it for mistakes. No matter how many times you re-read your work, you always seem to miss a couple things.

This has happened to me several times as I've scanned my collection. I realized I had rushed through my workflow too fast that morning and a couple of slides were cropped too much and I was missing information from the original image.

I like the peace of mind knowing I can return to the original if I ever want or need to.

2 Future Technology:

How will I feel when new technology comes out that can scan and extract even more quality and detail from my photos than I was able to the day I scanned them. The day you scan a photo is the day you “lock in” that days' technology.

What if one of my nieces or nephews took an interest in them one day — possible when I am no longer around — and wanted to rescan some of the collection with this new “futuristic” technology?

Storing the originals — especially film negatives — gives you technological opportunities later.

3 Scanned Before Cleaned:

I know I scanned some slides that really shouldn't have been. What I mean is, they were way too dirty or moldy to produce a good scan from. I really should have set them aside and cleaned them with a special chemical first.

So I know I want to go back and re-scan some of them that really mean a lot to me that are in bad shape.

(I went ahead and scanned them, because as some of you already know, my goal right now is to get them digitized as fast as I reasonably can so that my parents can go through them and help me order and label them. Later, I will clean them up and make them look pretty.)

Storing the originals gives you the option to perform temporary scans.

4 Digital Longevity Technically Unproven:

The process of digital preservation hasn't been around that long yet. We are all still learning how to save and archive digital files and have them last theoretically forever.

Are all of us digital junkies really prepared? Because DVD's can rot, hard drives can fail and natural disasters do occur all over the world.

This involves backing up to several hard drives, storing them in more than one place (just in case a natural disaster destroys your home for example), and also looking into backing them up to the “cloud” (internet storage companies that charge a monthly fee).

Even though I am confident I am going to be responsible and look out for my digital files, I love knowing that if something DID go wrong with my failsafes, I have the originals to return to.

But Still — Seriously, What's the Point of Scanning Then!?

With all this said, I know they do take up space!

For most of our lives, we're preoccupied with acquiring things, and then we spend the last part of our lives giving away these things.

And I feel like I am already ahead of schedule. I am middle-aged (I had to cough that one up) and already starting to really reduce the number of things my wife and I have in our house. I am putting work into carefully consolidating as little as possible.

But for me, personally, these analog “memories” will probably be the last thing I will pitch — and that will probably be like the ol' saying, “over my dead body!” Someone can bury me literally under my collection. It can be grass, then dirt, then my collection, and then me.

personal photo album open with hand-written captioned photos

Am I really just being overly sentimental about a bunch of old paper and chemicals?

Shortly thereafter, I ran across a couple of forum comments on photo.net that smacked me right in the face with this very question.

They were just a couple of thoughts out of many, buried in a discussion about 35mm slides.

Sorry to tell you guys, but 99.9% of your pictures just aren't that important. If you don't throw them out before you die, your wife's next husband will. Including the so-called keepers.

~ Alan Klein

I agree with Alan. Our slides are not important to anyone really other than to ourselves and I think it is a fantasy to assume they need to be treasured like works of art.

~ Robin Smith

I guess it's possible Alan and Robin wrote these words with little thought. They could have been a knee-jerk reaction typed out on their smartphones while they were waiting for their movie to start in a theater. They were just trying to be funny — right?

Or, they could have taken their time and typed out their true and sobering belief in the matter after months of deep-hearted analysis.

Either way, what they said is still truly scary to me.

Are we really lying to ourselves if we think our print and 35mm slide collections will be appreciated generations from now?

When my will is read aloud in front of my surviving family (or is that only done by rich people in the movies?), will any one of my nieces and nephews be upset if I choose them to take over as caretaker of my treasured old photo collection?

If their truth be told, would everyone prefer to be awarded my almost valueless Groo the Wanderer childhood comic book collection instead?

Maybe, sadly, it's true.

On the surface, it appears that our little “future generations” are being groomed to appreciate only digital images — consumed quickly and clicked out of view.

“Oh look, Uncle Curtis — there's a cat doing something funny in this ‘pitcher' !”

“Oh yes. Yeah, that's cute.”

[click]

[sigh]

So Analog Is Done Then?

I certainly wouldn't say it's done. I'm sure this is a conversation that will continue on for years to come.

But in the meantime, here's something truly interesting I remember stumbling onto earlier this year that should make the answer less obvious for even the cynical. The information passed by me so quickly that it almost didn't register.

But it did.

Jaws 4k Transfer Restoration from Pocket-Lint.com
Technicians spent 4-5 months restoring “Jaws” to extract 4k digital files from the original camera negative. (via Pocket-lint)

Jaws the Restoration

I watched this absolutely fascinating 8-minute documentary showing how technical masters recently restored Steven Spielberg's masterpiece “Jaws” for release on Bluray.

I mean — thank goodness! Right?

Who wants to watch that dirty old version of “Jaws”  that's been out on just standard-definition DVD when you could watch an even newer, cleaned-up digital version on high-definition Bluray, brought back to life from cleaning up that out-of-date, clunky original film negative! (Read a little sarcasm there)

What's exciting about this age is we're able to restore these movies—we can bring these classic [Universal Pictures] movies back to life in a way that makes them more vivid than even we remember them when we went to the cinema to see them.

~ Steven Spielberg
(Director)

Even though I work in the industry, I am still amazed at the level of technology that is constantly flowing from it.

It was easily apparent that this movie would look and sound utterly fantastic when they were done restoring it. I was ready to buy a copy of it just halfway through watching this video!

Here's the whole thing if you want to watch it for yourself.

The Interesting Relevant Part

Here's the part that really caught my attention.

As the documentary ends, at exactly 6 min 30 seconds in, the music slows and becomes sentimental. We hear angelic voices say the following in order:

The outputs of this project are both film and digital. We are restoring high-resolution digital files as well as recording a new negative.

We do both because digital files, while they are convenient to work with, and they allow us a wide range of options, for archival means, we still want a piece of film to put away.

~ Peter Schade
(Vice Pres. of Content Management and Tech. Services – Universal Studios)

This is our cultural heritage. It's very important to preserve the physical film—the 35mm film and the negative.

~ Steven Spielberg

Film is a known commodity. We can put that on a shelf and store it in the proper conditions and that thing will last 100 years plus.

~ Peter Schade

These “harp strums” were like music to my ears!

All that money was spent to make an almost near-perfect digital version of this feature film, yet they spent, even more to ensure there was yet another (analog) piece of film created to ensure this movie lives on forever.

Which is the Right Choice Now?

Well, I don't think this says that my thinking is right, and anyone who wishes to throw out their original prints and negatives after scanning is wrong. Not at all.

But, this proves to me that even the technicians working with the highest levels of technology available still feel there is reason to doubt that today's level of digitization and digital preservation is “good enough.”

They must believe there are still just too many unanswered “what ifs” to take any chances by removing analog sources from the future equation.

So I hate to tell you, but whether you decide to hold on to your original prints and negatives is still going to have to be a decision only you can make.

After reading this, you may now feel your whole life's collection isn't even as important as “Jaws,” so what's the point of even treating it like it is!!!

And this still doesn't solve the possible problem if our surviving family members end up not giving two feathered hoots about inheriting our old fading collections.

What About Me, You Ask?

So maybe you could say I have decided I will hold onto my prints and slides — not necessarily for my family — but for me. Yes me! Just having them makes me feel better.

And as for my surviving family?

Well, I will continue spending my free time scanning and restoring all of my family's photographs so that when I possibly have to take this analog collection with me to the grave, I will have a pristine digital copy of it waiting for all of them.

This way, hopefully, every once in a while, when the time is right, my nieces and nephews will be able to click or swipe or whatever their futuristic tablets can do then, through all of these old amazing “story-filled” photographs that meant so much to their loved ones before them… who made their beautiful lives possible.

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I really hope you enjoyed this. I would love to know how you feel about it.

For example, why do you think people should or should not save their original photo collections? Please let me know in the comments below.

Also, I've created an anonymous poll I would really appreciate if you would take a few seconds to participate in.

Cheers!

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My photo collection sitting at the top of my trash can

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Latest comments (58)

  • Boudicca•

    If I could nip back in time I would tell myself NEVER bin your negatives! (& do not get married, but at least that error was fixable:) Some negatives + prints were discarded due to being landscapes, dull (Although being on 110 film, they wern’t exactly taking up much space!) But others were of me & friends from years ago, some underexposed; I assumed I’d never see these people again, and I also never imagined being old and nostalgic for my own history. Pre-AuADHD diagnosis I didn’t twig that those images were my replacement for a glitched memory. Fast forward a few years, home scanners that can wring detail from sub-par negatives, and ‘social media’ are invented! Being able to re-connect with past lives and share photos online, suddenly those old, unique images are relevant again and much wanted. I’d been lucky enough to have a snap-camera when most didn’t carry them, to capture those moments. Then threw them away. It’s some consolation to know I didn’t lose all of them, and that I’m not alone in making this mistake; it’s surprisingly more common than I’d thought-! But I feel bad for anyone who loses their photos, whether thru’ accidents or their own mistake – So my advice, learnt the hard way as usual, is do not get rid of your negatives! – If they get binned after you die, fair enough. But while you’re still on this material plane, you just might want them back some day..

  • weiss•

    Did anyone succeed with the family site idea for digitial sharing, and if so, how and where is it hosted? I realize that among my tens of thousands of images are many that are really for other people, not for me. Creating a family site would be perfect, and then I could send the subjects their own negatives!

  • Sandra M•

    This article was extremely helpful. I am just starting to scan thousands of photos from years ago, some of them before color was a thing. I’ve been struggling with what to do with them after I scan them for all the reasons you mentioned. I want to declutter, but I fear I’ll lose something very important and precious in tossing them. I’m still struggling even as I write this, but I like knowing that I’m not alone and that all of my back and forth was so well articulated by your article. Even the comments section is helping me decide my next steps as it appears that so many others are having the same internal debate and some even have a firm stance. All of these comments are helping me decide what I should do next. Thank you.

  • Donna H•

    Regarding old photos and their associated negatives, do I really want to keep the hundreds of photos I took of museum displays, aquarium animals, and botanical gardens? It all looks the same after a while. I took so many as a youngster then teen and young adult, until a well-travelled friend told me to just buy the souvenir book filled with photos from the shop at the end of every tour. Those guide book photos are much better, have higher clarity and often have detailed explanations accompanying the photos.

    • weiss•

      Agreed!! Same with all those gorgeous travel photos with no people in them. (Just check to see whether they haver become relevant in some unexpected way, like the building is gone or the animal is extinct or in some other way important, so you don’t say, ” I KNOW I had a photo that showed…”

  • Donna H•

    If you think the digital restoration of Jaws was awesome, you need to get yourself the documentary behind the documentary of They Shall Not Grow Old! Not only was major restoration done to the film, but so too was colorization added, synching to old audio where they somehow figured which footage to sync it to, AND standardization of speed as much of the original footage was hand crank cameras and different videographers cranked at different speeds!!! The documentary, and the documentary behind it, blew me away.

  • Janine•

    My quick answer is um Hell No! I will never throw them away after I scan them. Put simply, I have 8 boxes (I mean bins)of photos of my family spanning over 50 years. (only two slides though) and I treasure them more than anything. I am older now and when I want to go down the rabbit hole of memories, I go into my closet and start looking at them. I’ve sorted them into boxes with my kids names, parents, grandparents etc. along with the childhood handprints, stories, poetry, report cards, newspaper articles, and sports postings and I know one day my kids will love to see what I saved.

    When we had to evacuate from a nearby fire in So Cal two years ago, I had 15 minutes to grab what I wanted. The first thing I took was all of my pictures off of the walls and mantles, then the bins, my jewelry, and my computers and purse. No way was I going to leave my photos behind.

    I do a lot of ancestry research and I can tell you that finding an old photo or letter from an ancestor online is like panning for gold…sometimes you get lucky… I started a family site and asked all of my hundreds of cousins to post old videos and photos of grandparents, great-grandparents, etc., and had they not had the originals left to them by their parents who passed, they would have been lost forever..now they are preserved (until they close up) on Ancestry sites.. yes, I remember when Picasso shut down and I had to download all of my digital files before they closed up shop..

    I’m pretty sure that not many people have the login and password to your digital files unless it’s sent out before you die….most people don’t know the day they will die so Ione can assume the logins and passwords will be lost forever for most…poof..no pictures for future generations.

    I came across this site because my daughter-in-law is digitalizing her last bunch of photos and is tossing the originals away. Yikes! So, I went online to see if anyone mentioned why or why not toss them after they are digitized. For her? Yes..for me. NOOOO WAY!.. I’ll keep mine and pray she will send me a copy of the digitalized ones and maybe I’ll print and frame a few 🙂

    • Curtis Bisel•

      Hi, Janine! Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to share all of this with us. I really enjoyed reading it.

      I’m sure that the 15 minutes you described were harrowing! I mean, as easy as it was to prioritize many things as the most important to grab first, I’m sure in your head, though, you were screaming about other things you then realized in real-time you would have to leave behind!

      How has your “family site” experiment gone for you? Have family members taken to it and spent time adding to it? I often wonder how many are started with great intentions but are seemingly left bare because some family members assume “other” members will take care of scanning and uploading [for them]. I would be interested to hear your thoughts after making that website happen.

      I am glad you are being very proactive and protective of your cherished photos. Your family will love you for it — even if that realization comes later. 😉

    • Leah•

      Hi Janine, thanks for sharing. May I ask what platform your family site is on? I want to do that, but don’t know where to start.

  • David T•

    I think I will review and sort, keep the interesting ones, scan those, maybe keep a few of the originals but everything else – garbage. No one cares about them and I’m not going to try to kid myself than anyone does. that would take me from 8 boxes down to 1 or 2 but I will still have all the pictures I wanted scanned.

  • Tony•

    I have accumulated just over 5,000 slides that I took from the mid-’70s through the late ’80s. The archival scanning has been taking place for about 14 years now, mostly because I tend to procrastinate when it comes to certain tasks. I would clean and scan a few hundred slides and then not touch them for a year. Of course, there were kids, a job, family engagements, socials. Plenty of excuses to not have to sit for hours cleaning and scanning slides.
    It has been 5 years since I last scanned a slide. The slides that I did scan are now at home in their 4th computer.
    I am now 66 years old and one year into my retirement, so there is nothing to stop me now. I bought a new computer and an Epson V550 flatbed scanner (my old Epson scanner was obsolete) and started scanning again last December. Over the last 8 months, I scanned the last 2,000 or so slides. I finished today, the culmination of 15 years of work. And, I must say, I feel very satisfied.
    Which brings me to this blog. The last week of scanning, I kept asking myself, should I keep this large box of slides or just toss them. After all, I am trying to reclaim some closet space. I’ve been storing these things since 1990 for goodness sake. I mean, these babies are backed up to Toledo and back. Two external hard drives and two cloud storage services. The reason for all the backup is that I have a small landscape photography business and aside from the slides, there are about 30,000 RAW files backed up.
    So, to be honest, I was leaning toward tossing them in the trash with next Saturday’s collection. But after reading your blog and doing some soul-searching, I decided to keep them right where they are. I have been making room for them for 30 years so what’s another 30? I should be so lucky to live that long. The slides themselves are very sentimental objects. They are tactile. They are colorful. Cardboard and cellulose, stored in little plastic cubes. 36 slides to a cube, 16 cubes to a box, times 9 boxes equal 5,148 little pieces of emotion. I can’t throw that away. I’m about to cry just thinking about it.
    I just had a thought. I probably have just as many prints from that same time period that need to be digitized. I certainly won’t be throwing those away either.
    So Curtis, if you are still listening 4 years later, thank you for the advice!